San Diego County has gone from roughly 1,100 concealed carry permits to well over 30,000. [FLAG: confirm the 30,000 figure before publishing. This is Michael's number on air, not the Sheriff's.] This week Sheriff Kelly Martinez sat down in our studio for a full hour, and one answer stopped the room: if your CCW application gets denied, you can reapply the next day. No waiting period, nothing in statute. Both CCW instructors at our desk had been telling students otherwise.
That was not the only thing she put on the record. Her office issued 29 temporary gun violence restraining orders this entire year, and 11 permanent ones across several years, in a county of three and a half million people. She walks us through 41 years in the department, including ten of them working domestic terrorism cases undercover, and she explains why she still will not tell you her personal opinion on gun ownership. We also tell her, to her face, where we think she has it wrong.
Chapters:
0:00 Welcome, and what is on the show
3:39 Dakota's 3-gun prep class for Fall Fest
6:39 Why competition is the training step most people skip
11:53 Alisha's gun cleaning class, and the fan mail that followed
16:34 Why we wanted Sheriff Martinez in the studio
18:09 The Gore years, the 13-sentence good cause guide, and how an endorsement gets earned
29:36 Sheriff Kelly Martinez joins us
30:32 What running San Diego County actually looks like
33:29 Jails, in-custody deaths, and what she changed
38:41 The first woman elected sheriff in San Diego County
40:36 41 years: Las Colinas, Descanso, narcotics, gangs, and ten years undercover
46:32 How much crime traces back to drugs
48:52 Where she stands on the Second Amendment and CCW
54:14 From 1,100 permits to more than 30,000
55:59 What is still left to fix in the process
57:22 The disclosure trap, and students denied over things that never disqualified them
1:01:13 "You can reapply the next day"
1:02:21 Does a mistake on the form mean you would lie in an investigation?
1:09:20 Gun violence restraining orders: 29 in the whole year
1:13:10 Why the City of San Diego's numbers look nothing like hers
1:19:20 Re-election in 2028, recruiting, and what she still wants to build
1:25:10 Gun buybacks, and the FFL idea she had never heard
1:30:03 Lightning round
1:34:16 What we made of her
1:38:00 The one answer that changes what we tell students
1:42:29 Where we disagree with the Sheriff
1:50:23 Cop movies, and the case for a John Milius segment
1:53:29 Coming up: the Maryland map that redlines an entire state
If you carry in San Diego County, if your permit application ever came back denied, or if you have wondered what your sheriff actually does all day, this one is for you.
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